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if you googled baloney two hours after the debate, you would get oscar meyer and then newt gingrich. romney has the same opportunity, when it comes to obama's populous messages, i'm one of the common guys and you're out of touch. romney has an opportunity to say you have made $2 million in one year, you spent more money in your time in the white house than the royal family. how are you you one of the common man? i think preparation is important, knowing the material is important. but then being comfortable enough in your own skin and comfortable with the topic that you can come up with a pious baloney moment. they aren't planned, aren't scripted, it just happens when it happens. >> but, professor schroeder, we've heard reports that the romney campaign has been preparing some so-called zingers that mitt romney's practiced and can use. i don't know why they would leak that kind of information, because it's like setting you up to fail if it doesn't work out. but how important are little lines like that, do you think? in the history of debates? >> i think they can be very important. i am
if you googled baloney two hours after the debate, you would get oscar meyer and then newt gingrich. romney has the same opportunity, when it comes to obama's populous messages, i'm one of the common guys and you're out of touch. romney has an opportunity to say you have made $2 million in one year, you spent more money in your time in the white house than the royal family. how are you you one of the common man? i think preparation is important, knowing the material is important. but then being...
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patrick, you say newt gingrich's famous pious baloney line was one of his strongest hits against mitt romney during the primary debates. i want to play that for our viewers who don't remember. take a look. >> can we drop a little bit of the pious baloney? the fact is you ran in '94 and lost. that's why you -- this idea that suddenly citizenship showed up in your mind, just level with the american people. you've been running for at least since the 1990s. >> i'm curious how much of those kind of zingers are prethought out and what does mitt romney have to do to avoid taking a big hit tomorrow night? >> well, that was all newt and part of the great thing about newt is that he knew the topic, you knew the weak points, but he was prepared to answer the question and then if you can come up with pious baloney, then that just puts a cherry on top. interestingly enough, if you googled baloney two hours after that debate you would get oscar mayer and newt gingrich. romney has the same opportunity, especially when it comes to obama's populoous message, i'm one of the common guys and you're out o
patrick, you say newt gingrich's famous pious baloney line was one of his strongest hits against mitt romney during the primary debates. i want to play that for our viewers who don't remember. take a look. >> can we drop a little bit of the pious baloney? the fact is you ran in '94 and lost. that's why you -- this idea that suddenly citizenship showed up in your mind, just level with the american people. you've been running for at least since the 1990s. >> i'm curious how much of...
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mitt romney, purely because he spent most of the year debating against very good debaters like newt gingrich and rick santorum and others. they were very capable opponents on a debate stage. barack obama hasn't done this for four years. so i would think the advantage would definitely be with the apparent underdog, a, because people don't think he's going to win and i think he may well win that first debate and secondly, because he's the more experienced debater. >> well, i think i would caution you a little bit. i think the president, when he has given kind of press interviews, that is a form of being pressed on things so maybe you're not debating another opponent one-on-one, but you are going through the process of answering questions and tough questions and people are not letting you squirm out of things. i think you do have to pull that down a little bit. i do believe that mitt romney has not demonstrated that he's agile. he's not kind of light on his feet. so the idea that if you had a tough spot in a debate, whether the moderator pushed or obama pushed and could romney not talking from
mitt romney, purely because he spent most of the year debating against very good debaters like newt gingrich and rick santorum and others. they were very capable opponents on a debate stage. barack obama hasn't done this for four years. so i would think the advantage would definitely be with the apparent underdog, a, because people don't think he's going to win and i think he may well win that first debate and secondly, because he's the more experienced debater. >> well, i think i would...
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it was a clear takedown he had of newt gingrich during that debate. and mitt romney has shown, his back is against the wall, he can perform well in the debates. he did that in california with rick perry, did that on a number of occasions with rick perry and was able to put the challengers aside. and, you know if you saw the latest cnn orc poll that came out yesterday showing that the president is just now three points ahead of mitt romney, this race is getting tighter, and i think that falls into what the romney campaign considers to be its playbook at this point, keep it close, keep it tight, get through the debates, and look once again to the economy as the determining factor in this election. >> you know, jim, we heard from kevin madden, the romney campaign adviser on getting romney ready for this debate tomorrow, here's what he said. >> just trying to get the governor familiar with the head to head one on one format has been a focus because in all the previous debates that we have had, it has been, you know, nine people on stage, trying to -- tryi
it was a clear takedown he had of newt gingrich during that debate. and mitt romney has shown, his back is against the wall, he can perform well in the debates. he did that in california with rick perry, did that on a number of occasions with rick perry and was able to put the challengers aside. and, you know if you saw the latest cnn orc poll that came out yesterday showing that the president is just now three points ahead of mitt romney, this race is getting tighter, and i think that falls...
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listen to newt gingrich because he had some advice. let me play the clip. >> if he would be as direct, as assertive, as firm with barack obama as he was with me in florida, he'll win the debate going away. and within three days of winning that debate the polls will change dramatically because he'll have begun to make the case that we cannot afford four more years of barack obama. >> he's got some experience. mitt romney beat him so he knows what he's talking about. >> he got creamed in the debates. >> you don't think his advice is any good? >> gingrich trying to be the party soldier for mitt romney. the polls are not going to dramatically change after the debate. we play a roll here. we in the media build things up do or die. and certainly with 40 days to go these are crucial opportunities for mitt romney. but most of them tend to be a muddle. each side makes its points, we all analize it. they are not the dramatic game changers that either side might hope for. >> i'll disagree with you because i think when it comes to that 5 or 6 or 7
listen to newt gingrich because he had some advice. let me play the clip. >> if he would be as direct, as assertive, as firm with barack obama as he was with me in florida, he'll win the debate going away. and within three days of winning that debate the polls will change dramatically because he'll have begun to make the case that we cannot afford four more years of barack obama. >> he's got some experience. mitt romney beat him so he knows what he's talking about. >> he got...
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and that really put gingrich in his place. and that's happened throughout the primary debates when pawlenty wouldn't repeat the romney care charge. if the account candidate is not willing to say something face-to-face as they do in an interview, we view them as weak. that moment was a moment of strength for governor romney. >> the other thing he said which i think is true and i would bet you'd agree is that both mitt romney and president obama tend to have the same strengths and weaknesses. the weakness he's concerned about and was in the primary ss that he tends to get defensive. he really needs to control that. i know from sources talking to mitt romney in these mock debates that's definitely one thing they've been practicing big time. >> that was certainly a key moment in the end of newt gingrich's efforts to become the republican presidential nominee. >> sure was. >> mitt romney really gave it to him at that point. we'll have much more on this coming up in our next hour. dana, thanks very much. >>> in our next hour we're g
and that really put gingrich in his place. and that's happened throughout the primary debates when pawlenty wouldn't repeat the romney care charge. if the account candidate is not willing to say something face-to-face as they do in an interview, we view them as weak. that moment was a moment of strength for governor romney. >> the other thing he said which i think is true and i would bet you'd agree is that both mitt romney and president obama tend to have the same strengths and...
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i want to set up how you feel about the debates with a quick sound from newt gingrich and how he views the importance of these debates. >> it has to be campaign of contrast, not attack. >> right. >> require the contrast has to be disarming the president because if the president is believable -- this is where clinton was so good. if the president is believable at the end of the first debate, there's a very high likelihood is he going to get re-elected. >> whoa. not just the debate, but the first debate. do you agree? >> sure. i think the first debate is critical because this is their first chance -- our first chance to see the two gladiators in their arena alone, so how they -- who is the alpha dog in this debate? that's what we want to see. if you can't beat the other guy, how can you lead the country? >> you think mitt romney could lose it in this first debate, do you agree? >> i think that the debates are really tough for the incumbent. i think there's a big study done by the -- no, they show the challengers win the debates because it's the first time -- >> john mccain -- >> they had
i want to set up how you feel about the debates with a quick sound from newt gingrich and how he views the importance of these debates. >> it has to be campaign of contrast, not attack. >> right. >> require the contrast has to be disarming the president because if the president is believable -- this is where clinton was so good. if the president is believable at the end of the first debate, there's a very high likelihood is he going to get re-elected. >> whoa. not just...
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take a look at this little change with newt gingrich in florida in january. >> speaker gingrich was hired by freddie mac to promote them, to influence other people throughout washington, encouraging them not to dismantle these two entities. i think that was an enormous mistake. >> so he did it with a nice tone, said newt gingrich made an enormous mistake. i think that was a good way of romney pointing out the differences. what he does, though, is when he's in moment when there's a really candid exchange and he's not sure what to say, he can really look awkward. remember this? i bet you do. >> you were for individual mandate, my friend. >> you know what, you've raised that before, rick. and you're wrong -- >> it was true then, true now. >> rick, i'll tell you what, 10,000 bucks? $10,000 bet? >> that became a real problem for mitt romney because it only fed into the narrative that he doesn't care about your problems, he's rich and out of touch. if you bet $10,000, not such a good idea. >> that was a little awkward. >> it was a bad moment for him. and that happens to him when he's challenged
take a look at this little change with newt gingrich in florida in january. >> speaker gingrich was hired by freddie mac to promote them, to influence other people throughout washington, encouraging them not to dismantle these two entities. i think that was an enormous mistake. >> so he did it with a nice tone, said newt gingrich made an enormous mistake. i think that was a good way of romney pointing out the differences. what he does, though, is when he's in moment when there's a...
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he took it to newt gingrich, the best debater. >> let me finish my point. then you're welcome to -- for two years he's been trying to hone this message at a time when i think as a big surprise to a lot of people the president's doing better on the economy than he probably deserves to be doing. >> even in the polling. >> what makes you think in a high pressure environment, his first presidential debate he's actually going to deliver? >> it's the first time he's able to take the case right to the guy he's opposing. it's the first time -- and i believe president obama's style is to sort of look out to the audience and the questioner and us at home. i believe mitt romney needs to turn to president obama the way he did to newt gingrich in florida. mitt romney was on fire in that one debate. he really took it to newt. he was relentless. i was newt's senior adviser at the time. it was very unexpected. we know he's capable of it. >> if you're a romney supporter, you've got to believe this, right? because the race is slipping away from him. you got to believe he can
he took it to newt gingrich, the best debater. >> let me finish my point. then you're welcome to -- for two years he's been trying to hone this message at a time when i think as a big surprise to a lot of people the president's doing better on the economy than he probably deserves to be doing. >> even in the polling. >> what makes you think in a high pressure environment, his first presidential debate he's actually going to deliver? >> it's the first time he's able to...
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i saw him do best, probably his two best debates, suzanne were the florida debates with when newt gingrich had beat him lining a pulp in the south carolina debates a few weeks before. so i think that could actually be an advantage for mitt romney. he seems to be good under pressure. but, you know, listen, both these guys have a lot of strengths and some weaknesses. the question is -- >> let's talk specific. >> the nastiness is time out for that. we know the base of both political parties are very enthusiastic. this is about appealing to those undecided moderates and independents and nasty is not cool. >> let's talk about -- let's talk about appealing to latino voters. there's a new poll out today. back in 2008 mccain had 31% of latino vote. that was not as good as george w. bush in 2004 he had 44% of latino vote. romney need at least a quarter to a third of latino vote toeshs competitive in states like colorado where the debate is and that kind of thing. real quickly because i want to get to donna on this issue. what does he need to do to appeal to latino voters? >> i think latino voters n
i saw him do best, probably his two best debates, suzanne were the florida debates with when newt gingrich had beat him lining a pulp in the south carolina debates a few weeks before. so i think that could actually be an advantage for mitt romney. he seems to be good under pressure. but, you know, listen, both these guys have a lot of strengths and some weaknesses. the question is -- >> let's talk specific. >> the nastiness is time out for that. we know the base of both political...
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if you are going to milwaukee the charge, make it on the stage, and that really put gingrich in his place. you know, that's happened through -- that happened throughout the primary debates. when pawlenty wouldn't -- if a candidate is not willing to say the same thing on stage face-to-face that they'll say in an interview, we view them as weak. that moment was a moment of strength for governor romney. >> dana bash is joining us life. dana, that was really fascinating. interesting that you spoke to the republican strategist brad o'donnell, one of romney's primary debate here. he spent a lot of time with him during the primaries. how much does the romney think that those 20 or so debates in the primaries is going to help him win tonight? >> well, of course, any debate that any candidate has they think will help, but, you know, this is a very, very different ballgame. first of all, mitt romney was standing next to about half a dozen people at any given moment. this is mano-y-mano with the president of the united states. also, the tens of millions of viewers will be watching. it is a very diff
if you are going to milwaukee the charge, make it on the stage, and that really put gingrich in his place. you know, that's happened through -- that happened throughout the primary debates. when pawlenty wouldn't -- if a candidate is not willing to say the same thing on stage face-to-face that they'll say in an interview, we view them as weak. that moment was a moment of strength for governor romney. >> dana bash is joining us life. dana, that was really fascinating. interesting that you...
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watching what it was one deadline past and another deadline, congressman akin staying in, we saw newt gingrich helping to campaign with him. might we see any outside money headed into the todd akin campaign? >> well, from the perspective of the national republican party, they're hedging their bets. they'll wait and see if it is close. sources i've talked to said they don't think it will be, but they're going to not close the door. but with regard to outside groups, one of the biggest ones, crossroads, karl rove's group, they insist they will not spend money there but there are other outside groups. one was backed by senator jim demint. they did a poll of their supporters online, and they all said that they believe that they should back todd akin and i think we have a shot of the website. so far they have raised $138,000 in a week online. so, you know, that's not going to win the race for todd akin, but it is more money than he had before and we'll see how much money they raise in the next month. >> that is missouri. let's talk maine. you and i have talked about senator olympia snowe, on this s
watching what it was one deadline past and another deadline, congressman akin staying in, we saw newt gingrich helping to campaign with him. might we see any outside money headed into the todd akin campaign? >> well, from the perspective of the national republican party, they're hedging their bets. they'll wait and see if it is close. sources i've talked to said they don't think it will be, but they're going to not close the door. but with regard to outside groups, one of the biggest...